A small thing to note: This was done on Potato's servers (before the Moonlight test server were updated); so we did practically play the same mission but just with a different boss (and without the additional bots on that finale, whom of which -- seem to likely not have affected the outcome anyway).
To reiterate on W5 feedback:
- The colonels and rapids will more than likely die of self-damage, or do sufficient enough damage to themselves before they ever reach the players (unless you're a scout and at the front and turning them around but besides the point!).
An easy suggestion would be to just slap them on the right side spawn to prevent it, on top of avoiding potential stacking of giants behind the tank (but do keep in mind that the map is very forgiving for players the second they're inside the building entrance near the mid upgrade station).
If you are going to rebrand it as Advanced (Up to you entirely if you want to impose these changes), I only really recommend to put your focus on:
- Wave 1's final subwave, would seem a little weak; but depends.
- Wave 2's first subwave. A lot of nothing happening at times, and bots don't have their standard "oomf" to them.
- Keeping Wave 3 as it is for now, though it is heavily advised to test it with players to see if you need to do some action for it (preferably 5 mans, judges will do their thing for 4 mans)
- (OPTIONAL) Potentially a small nerf on wave 4? On top of a small adjustment to the Dragon Fury pyros (MaxVisionRange 800 or so, to prevent them from looking like they're AlwaysFire due to how they think it isn't actually a flamethrower.)
- Minor adjustments on Wave 5 and 6
To reiterate on W5 feedback:
- The colonels and rapids will more than likely die of self-damage, or do sufficient enough damage to themselves before they ever reach the players (unless you're a scout and at the front and turning them around but besides the point!).
An easy suggestion would be to just slap them on the right side spawn to prevent it, on top of avoiding potential stacking of giants behind the tank (but do keep in mind that the map is very forgiving for players the second they're inside the building entrance near the mid upgrade station).
If you are going to rebrand it as Advanced (Up to you entirely if you want to impose these changes), I only really recommend to put your focus on:
- Wave 1's final subwave, would seem a little weak; but depends.
- Wave 2's first subwave. A lot of nothing happening at times, and bots don't have their standard "oomf" to them.
- Keeping Wave 3 as it is for now, though it is heavily advised to test it with players to see if you need to do some action for it (preferably 5 mans, judges will do their thing for 4 mans)
- (OPTIONAL) Potentially a small nerf on wave 4? On top of a small adjustment to the Dragon Fury pyros (MaxVisionRange 800 or so, to prevent them from looking like they're AlwaysFire due to how they think it isn't actually a flamethrower.)
- Minor adjustments on Wave 5 and 6
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